The AE911Truth Petition
To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:
On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.
Featured Petition Signers
Gary Flomenhoft
B.S. Mechanical Engineering, Tufts Univ.
Steel buildings don't just fall down. Nano-thermite evidence should be investigated.
Gary Flomenhoft
B.S. Mechanical Engineering, Tufts Univ.
Burlington, VT
5 years experience aerospace: satellite assembly and testing 1 year design of mechanical ground support equipment 8 years steel fabrication and alternative vehicle assembly
Steel buildings don't just fall down. Nano-thermite evidence should be investigated.
Charles B. Walker
BSME Texas A&M U
There are many unanswered questions. If it was not an inside job, then the building designers and constructors should be held accountable.
Charles B. Walker
BSME Texas A&M U
Angleton, TX
Mechanical Structural Engineering with 40 years Experience in Petro-chemical industry.
There are many unanswered questions. If it was not an inside job, then the building designers and constructors should be held accountable.
Jeffrey C. Barker, PE
B.S., Arch Eng, M.S. Math, Cal Poly
When I first saw the towers fall I said that's a controlled demolition. My wife said omg we're at war. Tower 7 information came to me a week…
Jeffrey C. Barker, PE
B.S., Arch Eng, M.S. Math, Cal Poly
Cayucos, CA
B.S. Architectural Engineering and B.S. Applied Mathematics, M.S. Applied Mathematics, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, CA. Founding owner of Applied Engineering, A Structural Engineering firm started in 1983 and operating continuously to date designing bridges, schools, hospitals, falsework and many other kinds of structures.
When I first saw the towers fall I said that's a controlled demolition. My wife said omg we're at war. Tower 7 information came to me a week or so later, and just confirmed my first impression. The scary part is- who benefits by the destruction. The people need to take this country back. We the People are not just words, they mean something.
David K. Shore, MS
M.S. Engineering, U of Utah
The building collapses appeared suspicious, and the report did not address adequately the questions that have been raised about the mode of failure. For the security of all…
David K. Shore, MS
M.S. Engineering, U of Utah
Albuquerque, NM
Jet aircraft performance engineer for 5 years. Construction, welding, steel fabrication, design for 20 years.
The building collapses appeared suspicious, and the report did not address adequately the questions that have been raised about the mode of failure. For the security of all future Americans, these questions must be investigated by an independent group of experts, not political operatives.
David A. Techau, AIA
B Arch, AZ State; MSC, Cornell
Being from Minnesota, something smells fishy! I smell a rat as well. Will three sentences suffice?
David A. Techau, AIA
B Arch, AZ State; MSC, Cornell
Kula, HI
I have worked all over the U.S. for companies (i.e., Apple, Time Inc.) and institutions of higher education (e.g., Cornell, Texas A&M, Uof Missouri, Arizona State). Currently employed by the University of Hawaii, Maui Community College as a traveling instructor/coordinator of the state-funded Construction Academy whose sole purpose is to teach high school students (7 H.S./3 islands) basic skills in building design and construction so they can consider careers in the building trades and acquire the skill necessary to qualify for union apprenticeship programs.
Being from Minnesota, something smells fishy! I smell a rat as well. Will three sentences suffice?
James R. Cornwell, Student
Chemical Engineering, Minnesota
I would like to know the truth about Building 7 and the other buildings involved on September 11th 2001.
James R. Cornwell, Student
Chemical Engineering, Minnesota
Saint Paul, MN
I am a Chemical Engineering student at the University of Minnesota. I currently am employed as a Technical Aide at 3M and will continue to pursue a career in engineering.
I would like to know the truth about Building 7 and the other buildings involved on September 11th 2001.
Carl Preyer
Engineer (Retired)
BS, Mineral-Engineering Physics, Colorado School of Mines, University of Colorado, 1970
The buildings dropped at free fall velocity. That is physically impossible unless the lower floors are knocked out before the upper floors of the dropping structure encounter them.…
Carl Preyer
BS, Mineral-Engineering Physics, Colorado School of Mines, University of Colorado, 1970
Centennial, CO
Occupation: Engineer (Retired)
Retired after 28 years as optical/software engineer with Lockheed; Degree from Colorado School of Mines, University of Colorado.
The buildings dropped at free fall velocity. That is physically impossible unless the lower floors are knocked out before the upper floors of the dropping structure encounter them. The burning fuel could weaken the lower floors, but not cause their resistance to the falling structure to drop to zero. In the case of Building 7 there was no fuel to burn and fires in that building could not have burned in a pattern symetrical enough to allow the building drop in its own footprint, aside from the fact that the fires could not have been hot enough to bring the steel structure down.
Mohamed R. Yehiya, AIA
degreed & licensed
9/11 is amazing, when I heard through CNN that America under attack, instantly my gut feeling said that it is an inside as my knowledge of buildings said…
Mohamed R. Yehiya, AIA
degreed & licensed
Colombo, WP, Sri Lanka
Practicing Architect with 25 years experience in the field and yet in the intellectual pursuit of seeking specialized knowledge.
9/11 is amazing, when I heard through CNN that America under attack, instantly my gut feeling said that it is an inside as my knowledge of buildings said that the airplanes had nothing to do with the pattern of collapse. It was a planned demolition. My subsequent knowledge testified and further corroborated other scientific evidence and as presented by Gage. I have no doubt that is an inside operation.
Ida Lumintu, PhD
Lecturer/Engineer
PhD Industrial Engineering, University of Texas at Arlington, 2013
Please conduct a true investigation. Together we could find the justice.
Ida Lumintu, PhD
PhD Industrial Engineering, University of Texas at Arlington, 2013
Jember, Indonesia
Occupation: Lecturer/Engineer
Name: Ida LumintuPh.D. degree in Industrial Engineering from the University of Texas at Arlington (2013)
Please conduct a true investigation. Together we could find the justice.
David Cameron
9/11 Truth Activist
The American people deserve transparency and accountability from our government servants. We need a real investigation, not a cover-up. We must follow the science regardless of where it…
David Cameron
San Jose, CA
Occupation: 9/11 Truth Activist
I've been a building contractor for 30 years. Modern skyscrapers are not designed to fall from the sky as World Trade Center 7 did. Nor do they encounter structural failure and collapse from fire. This is nonsense.
The American people deserve transparency and accountability from our government servants. We need a real investigation, not a cover-up. We must follow the science regardless of where it leads us.
Marc P. Frey, Engineer
B.S., Mechanical Engineering, RPI
I have reviewed the available evidence over the past several years and it overwhelmingly supports the controlled demolition hypothesis concerning the WTC buildings on 9/11. There is more…
Marc P. Frey, Engineer
B.S., Mechanical Engineering, RPI
Schenectady, NY
After receiving my Bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in 2007, I began work at Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory, where I am still employed. I've spent the last 5 years focused on the hydraulic design of nuclear reactors for use in US Navy submarines.
I have reviewed the available evidence over the past several years and it overwhelmingly supports the controlled demolition hypothesis concerning the WTC buildings on 9/11. There is more than enough evidence to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the 9/11 commission report is not only substantially incomplete, but glaringly incorrect; yet this document still stands today as the official account of an event that continues to affect our everyday lives.
William C. Bowie
BSME
It is obvious from any angle that a more thorough investigation should be undertaken. This is my view strictly from the point of view of a Mechanical Engineer.
William C. Bowie
BSME
Clarksburg, WV
Bachelors of Science in Mechanical Engineering 1992 from West Virginia University. I study alternate forms of energy and the physics of magnetism on my own time. I work in the Energy business.
It is obvious from any angle that a more thorough investigation should be undertaken. This is my view strictly from the point of view of a Mechanical Engineer.
Petition Signatories
Parris K. Butler, Artist / Poet
Phoenix, AZ
Occupation: Painter/Poet
Education: AFA 2D Arts and AFA Creative Writing
Parris K. Butler, Artist / Poet
AFA 2D Arts and AFA Creative Writing
Phoenix, AZ
Occupation: Painter/Poet
born 1955 in Washington d.c native American (of Cherokee and Mojave descent). i have lived and worked as an artist in Santa Fe nm , Denver and aspen co , Berkeley and Oakland ca.
after the second plane hit we sat and watched and i said to myself , if they burn long enough one of them is going to fall over. i figured one of the towers might lean and fall , that the portion of the building above the damage might fall over . after the second tower collapsed i figured it must be nearly impossible for a massive skyscraper to fall straight down like that let alone two of them . i wondered how pissed off someone would have to be to fly an airplane into a building - i told myself that there would be an investigation and all of the details would eventually be sorted out . somehow it didn't add up . when the third building collapsed i started to wonder who held the title and who was the beneficiary on the insurance policy .
Matthew Bye
Uk, UK
Occupation: Non-Professional
Matthew Bye
Uk, UK
Occupation: Non-Professional
Educated to A-Level UK. Non Professional in architecture or building works.
Questions remain unanswered... I feel that the general public may never fully understand all the events.
Chukwu I. Fessachione, PhD
Lagos, Lagos, Nigeria
Education: Doctorate, Univ. of Lagos
Chukwu I. Fessachione, PhD
Doctorate, Univ. of Lagos
Lagos, Lagos, Nigeria
Retired professor. Taught for over 20 years at the University of Lagos in Nigeria.
100 percent controlled demolition on all buildings. No doubt about it. The squibs are obvious.
Jonathan Gill
Coventry, TX
Occupation: Fraud Investigation
Jonathan Gill
Coventry, TX
Occupation: Fraud Investigation
I am currently a technical manager of an intelligence team working at a firm of solicitors in the UK dealing with fraudulent insurance claims. I have 20 years experience in the insurance industry and am a specialist at both finding fraud and also proving it.
Although I have no experience in structural engineering, I cannot accept that the buildings would have collapsed in the manner they did due to fire alone and at nearly free fall speed. However, more importantly, the evidence collectively gives me grave concerns over the official reports submitted by FEMA, NIST and the 911 Commission.
Danny L. Rabon, Musician
Irving, TX
Occupation: Musician
Education: student
Danny L. Rabon, Musician
student
Irving, TX
Occupation: Musician
I recently found out about the controversy surrounding 911. I am not a professional in any field by any means, but I am an American. I believe any red blooded American should be doing anything and everything in their ability to shed light on this massive inside job!
By watching the video's of the twin tower's demise, it truly doesn't make since how government's explanation (if you can call it such) even would even begin to clarify what happened. Plus the lack of acknowledgment or explanation regarding building #7
Laurie Birmingham, American Citizen
Milwaukee, WI
Occupation: Theatre Arts
Education: MFA - University of WI - Milwaukee
Laurie Birmingham, American Citizen
MFA - University of WI - Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI
Occupation: Theatre Arts
I am an actor. I have made a living by pretending to be someone else. I'm 50 years old this year. I graduated with honors from high school and college. I consider myself an intelligent human being. I can usually tell when someone is acting (lying).
If Richard Gage's 2 hour film and all the other evidence that has been uncovered by independent sources like 9/11Truth.org isn't enough to convince you that 9/11 was a conspiracy by the highest officials in certain governments AROUND THE WORLD, you, my friend, are an ostrich.
John C. Polifronio
Los Angeles, CA
Occupation: Business
Education: Some college
John C. Polifronio
Some college
Los Angeles, CA
Occupation: Business
Education through junior college. Business involvement started in 1979 thru to the present.
I'm only concerned about this issue, because I don't think establishment media have allowed these contrarian views, concerning the 9/11 disaster, to be heard by the public.
Raymond S. Creighton
Tampa, FL
Occupation: Architectural Drafting/Design
Raymond S. Creighton
Tampa, FL
Occupation: Architectural Drafting/Design
Architectural drafting and design for six years as well as construction rigging and building for residential and commercial projects for another 12 years.
I am not a registered architect nor an engineer, but from my 17 years in construction and design work, and after reading a great deal on the subject, I have to conclude that something is missing from the official equation of how these three buildings collapsed. I will help in anyway I can to see that a new independent investigation is conducted.
Nicolas Diehl, No Title
Schaafheim, Hessen, Germany
Occupation: No Discipline
Education: no degree
Nicolas Diehl, No Title
no degree
Schaafheim, Hessen, Germany
Occupation: No Discipline
Graduated from high school some time ago, no further technical knowledge besides common sense.
After viewing the 2 hour presentation on this site, i agree with the demands for further investigation based on solid facts.
Dean H. Gardner, Construction Est
San Jose, CA
Occupation: Unknown
Dean H. Gardner, Construction Est
San Jose, CA
Occupation: Unknown
I estimate construction costs for industrial and commercial building projects from blue prints and on site.All of my estimates involve some sort of structural steel.
The world trade center buildings were structurally redundant.This would easily allow the weight of the structure to shift from a damaged area to the rest of the steel grid below and be supported.That is unless the lower structure had been compromised in some way.The visual and eye witness evidence clearly shows explosions of some sort particularizing concrete,and shattering the redundant steel structure, blowing it hundreds of feet away from the buildings.The nearly free fall speed of the collapse states that there was little,if any resistance from the lower steel and concrete floors of the buildings.What eliminated the resistance of the redundant steel structure below the impact sites,turning the concrete into fine dust?A gravity driven collapse should have left concrete floors piled on top of each other in large chunks of very hard concrete.I believe the collapse of world trade center buildings 1,2 and 7 were all the result of controlled demolition with high explosives.
Christopher D. Brown, BSc
Bath, ME
Education: BSc
Christopher D. Brown, BSc
BSc
Bath, ME
I am half way through training as an architect in the UK. I have worked in various positions in the UK.
I believe that the WTC collapses were the result of controlled explosions.
Cheryl D. Fumero
Philadelphia, PA
Education: student
Cheryl D. Fumero
student
Philadelphia, PA
I am a student. I have also looked and currently are in the process of researching more info on the whole situation... Conspiracy?
There was definitely explosives in the building . It would be ignorant to deny it.
Joseph T. Culleny, Construction Man
Brigantine, NJ
Occupation: Project Manager
Education: student
Joseph T. Culleny, Construction Man
student
Brigantine, NJ
Occupation: Project Manager
Over twenty five years of construction experience. Served as project supervisor on several high rise project's built in Atlantic City. I was involved with The Trump Taj Mahal project, which was built (1985-1990) using structural (428' tower) steel. Approx 18 thousand tons of steel.
I was in the towers in September 2000. I was amazed at the enormity, especially when you entered the tower through the lobby and passed through the column enclosures. I could not believe that they went down. It never really made sense to me until I stopped listening to regular media in 2004 and got into real research.
John R. Toon, Master Electrici
Southgate, MI
Occupation: Master Electrician
John R. Toon, Master Electrici
Southgate, MI
Occupation: Master Electrician
I am a licensed master electrician / general foreman/ retired from a major steel co. national steel now out of business. I am a retired electrical contractor. high school graduate with numerous classes in management and technical operations and procedures.
i firmly believe these buildings were imploded. it was a masterful operation I think by the Israeli intelligence and the alleged hi jackers. i firmly believe the Israeli intelligence knew of the plot to hit the twin towers and used this information to coincide with the planned destruction of the buildings. it was a known fact the buildings were in need of billions of dollars of repairs and code violations asbestos being one of these violations. the owner desperately wanted the insurance payout increased. why was the scrap metal shipped away and disposed of before analyzing could be accomplished. there is a whole host of precarious moves surrounding this event. i believe it was a conspiracy. i firmly believe this
Darius Torshizi A. Torshizi, Student
Mclean, VA
Education: Some college
Darius Torshizi A. Torshizi, Student
Some college
Mclean, VA
Photographer/ Artist / I studied and watched how they demolished a building. Not too many people can do this without training/experience.
Justice needs the work of Art, the same time the criminals should pay the price.
Leon B. Burns
Forsyth, GA
Occupation: Construction
Education: B.A. Building Construction, AU Auburn,AL
Leon B. Burns
B.A. Building Construction, AU Auburn,AL
Forsyth, GA
Occupation: Construction
35 years in commercial construction industry holding positions of Project Manager, Estimator, Field Superintendent and Construction Administrator.
I believe the towers where brought down by controlled demolition. I have observed controlled demolition and have had exposure to the methods used to accomplish this type of destruction. I can see no other possibility for the WTC collapses.
Pamela R. Ramey, MA
Casselberry, FL
Occupation: M.a. English
Education: MA English
Pamela R. Ramey, MA
MA English
Casselberry, FL
Occupation: M.a. English
I am a relationship/life coach and teach yoga, meditation and other courses on relationships, spirituality and sexuality. I have a Master's Degree in English and consider myself a life-long student in areas of spirituality, science (particularly quantum physics), metaphysics and psychology.
I have suspected for a long time what the experts are now proving. Why isn't there media coverage concerning all this evidence?
Chelsea Moller, Student
San Francisco, CA
Occupation: Environmental Studies
Education: student
Chelsea Moller, Student
student
San Francisco, CA
Occupation: Environmental Studies
I am a student at City College of San Francisco. I am studying environmental studies.
I am disgusted and feel betrayed by the information I have discovered on the supposed terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. I am shocked to find out that it is our own government that is striking terror in the hearts of Americans.
Gary L. Cobb
Savannah, TN
Occupation: Boiler-Maker Fitter
Gary L. Cobb
Savannah, TN
Occupation: Boiler-Maker Fitter
26 years experience Boiler-Maker fitter ASME Code 9 Pressure Vessels. 57 years old semi=retired
No doubt of the buildings being demolished by explosives. Am still curious how the airplanes entered the steel/concrete buildings like a knife through butter.
Nathan W. Halcovitch, Construction Eng
Hamilton, ON
Occupation: C.e.t
Nathan W. Halcovitch, Construction Eng
Hamilton, ON
Occupation: C.e.t
Recent grad, truth seeker, and activist. I have graduated from the CET program in Hamilton Ontario. I am fully convinced that the events of 9/11 were staged and covered up. With the knowledge I have been given in school, I am, without doubt, that these buildings were brought down by a controlled demolition. Not by a terrorist airplane hijacking.
Disgusted and outraged as a Non US citizen that this has happened and been covered up.
Laurie J. Hasler
Petaluma, CA
Laurie J. Hasler
Petaluma, CA
Adam P. Shamblin
Lakeland, FL
Occupation: IT
Adam P. Shamblin
Lakeland, FL
Occupation: IT
I do not work the building industry, but I do have a basic understanding of physics.
I see how unlikely it is that the towers fell the way that they did due to the impact and fire. The explanation by the government gives us is utter bull shit.
Joan Gibson, MSW
South Orange, NJ
Occupation: Government Employee
Education: MSW
Joan Gibson, MSW
MSW
South Orange, NJ
Occupation: Government Employee
I am not a technical expert. I work about 8 blocks from where the WTC buildings once stood - in one of the largest federal buildings in the country - on the 41st floor.
I work in NY City but was not there on 9/11. It is hard to believe that so many innocent people were killed deliberately (it appears that most people would have made it out if there were only airplane damage and fire), but the evidence of controlled demolition is definitely there. It would have been impossible to absorb this at first - but now it stands out so clear. I have always had this instinctive reaction about not believing any subsequent terror alerts. Now I know why. My colleagues say that on 9/11, as they were evacuating out of our federal building, FBI agents were in the lobby rushing them out and saying clear the area = we're next.
Rolf Lindgren, Loan Officer
Middleton, WI
Occupation: Loan Officer
Education: Bachelor of Mathematics, U of WI-Madison
Rolf Lindgren, Loan Officer
Bachelor of Mathematics, U of WI-Madison
Middleton, WI
Occupation: Loan Officer
Former Vice-Chair, Libertarian Party of Wisconsin, 2003, 2006-April, 2007 Polling Director, Aaron Russo Presidential Campaign, 2004 Polling Director, Michael Badnarik Presidential Campaign, 2004 Dane County Chair, Ed Thompson Wisconsin Governor Campaign, 2002 Able Toastmaster, 1993
The collapse of WTC 7 looks just like a controlled demolition. The collapse has several scientific characteristics of controlled demolition. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. The collapse of WTC 7 is a controlled demolition.
John R. Cameron, Retired
Blackheath, NSW, Australia
Occupation: Real Property Valuation
John R. Cameron, Retired
Blackheath, NSW, Australia
Occupation: Real Property Valuation
Retired property valuer ex AAIV Associate Australian Institute of Valuers Incorporated valuing residential real property in city & country districts in N.S.W.
WTC 7 smoking gun. Newton,physics & conservation of momentum. Applying mathematics free fall in 6.6 secs.impossible unless assisted
Lisa Toth, BA
Rochester, NY
Occupation: Music
Education: B.A. Violin Performance, Nazarth College
Lisa Toth, BA
B.A. Violin Performance, Nazarth College
Rochester, NY
Occupation: Music
I am conductor of Livingston Philharmonic Orchestra and concertmaster of Genesee Symphony Orchestra.
The attack upon the WTC was highly suspicious. The fall of the towers and bldg 7 were even more suspicious and the official reports are highly suspect. Ground Zero was a crime scene, and should have been preserved and investigated as such, not dismantled and carted off and sanitized. The truth always comes out. And the truth will be more horrific than what happened that day. Thank you for your actions to uncover that truth.
Bill Olmstead
Gaffney, SC
Occupation: Commercial Construction
Bill Olmstead
Gaffney, SC
Occupation: Commercial Construction
48 year old in SC! Very interested in putting to rest the theories and have all the facts exposed for the greater good of all!
No steel framed skyscraper in history has ever completely collapse for any reason other than deliberate demolition! Show me!
Sara M. Field, Concerned Citizen
Petoskey, MI
Occupation: Concerned Mother/Citizen
Sara M. Field, Concerned Citizen
Petoskey, MI
Occupation: Concerned Mother/Citizen
I have no technical education or experience, just an open mind as to what actually occurred on 9/11
I can't imagine how anyone would not want to question how this event/collapse truthfully happened. We all must get word out via the internet, the media is far too under control.
Alex B. Ross
Mount Vernon, IL
Occupation: Funeral Director
Education: degreed & licensed
Alex B. Ross
degreed & licensed
Mount Vernon, IL
Occupation: Funeral Director
I am not an engineer or architect, I am a concerned U.S. citizen who, as all others, deserve the truth.
After viewing the news coverage the first time right after it happened I knew a modern, expensive, concrete and steel superstructure should not be destroyed simply by being hit with a large aluminum object.
Paul Mumford
Vernon, CT
Occupation: Chef
Paul Mumford
Vernon, CT
Occupation: Chef
I'm a chef by trade. In my spare time I like to read,enjoy hiking,and I'm an absolute bloodhound on the internet. No information exists that I cannot find.
I have dedicated a large amount of time reading about the WTC collapses, and reviewing video footage of the WTC collapses. I am thoroughly unconvinced with the official story. It is rife with omissions, impossible theories, and biased information. Much of the evidence that I have reviewed elsewhere is fact finding, not fact omitting. I have serious concerns about the governing body behind the official report.
Jim Martin, CLVT, MA
Springville, AL
Occupation: Blind Rehabilitation
Education: MA
Jim Martin, CLVT, MA
MA
Springville, AL
Occupation: Blind Rehabilitation
I have no technical education or experience when it comes to architectural matters. However, it does not take a rocket scientist to smell a rat.
I had a gut feeling the moment that I saw the towers collapse on national TV that this was a controlled demolition.
Ethan E. Johnson, Student
Winter Park, FL
Occupation: Art And Design
Education: BS Film
Ethan E. Johnson, Student
BS Film
Winter Park, FL
Occupation: Art And Design
Graphic Designer experienced in 2D and 3D applications, seeking a Bachelors Degree in Film.
My opinion on the attacks has completely changed since this evidence was brought forth. Like most Americans I was duped, my initial response being sadness and grief, but as time has passed the fog lifts and the truth is revealed.
Babette Bruton
Gulfport, FL
Occupation: Owner/Housecleaning Business
Education: student
Babette Bruton
student
Gulfport, FL
Occupation: Owner/Housecleaning Business
I am a concerned citizen who's instinct knew something was very wrong about this from the get go. Thank you for all your hard work! hopefully someday those truly responsible for this will be held accountable.
Scientific proof is the only evidence that needs to be examined. It was obvious that the collapses were controlled by professionals. There is no other possible way for the buildings to come down the way they did.