The AE911Truth Petition
To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:
On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.
Featured Petition Signers
Umberto I. Gazzea
Ingineer
Università degli Studi di Padova
Umberto I. Gazzea
Università degli Studi di Padova
Padova, Italy
Occupation: Ingineer
Graduated in 2010 at the University of Padua in Civil Engineering, registered the Order of Engineers since 2011. After two years of experience on construction sites for telecommunications, currently I have started the professional career.
Peter Courand
American
Degreed
As a taxpaying U.S. citizen for the past 40 years, in New Jersey and Maine I have a right to request an investigation of the events leading up…
Peter Courand
Degreed
Belfast, ME
Occupation: American
Construction management for 30 years, in the residential, and light commercial sector in New York, New Jersey and Maine. Have an A.A. Degree from Fairleigh Dickinson University affiliate Edward Williams in Teaneck N.J.
As a taxpaying U.S. citizen for the past 40 years, in New Jersey and Maine I have a right to request an investigation of the events leading up to/encompassing 9/11/2001, and after the demolishing of the World Trade Centers buildings. It is obvious that the facts of that time period have been manipulated, ignored and suppressed by a terrorist faction involved in the power structure of my government. It is my faith and belief that the terrorist factions involved should and will be brought to justice, but only by honest and forthright investigation. Your oath of office binds you as an American to do just that.
Walter Mamak, BSCE, PE, MBA, F.ASCE
Adjunct Professor
BS Civil Engineering, Illinois Institute of Technology, 1973
From the very start the collapse mechanism of WTC1 and WTC2 never looked quite right to me. WTC7 looks completely like a controlled demolition. It is time we…
Walter Mamak, BSCE, PE, MBA, F.ASCE
BS Civil Engineering, Illinois Institute of Technology, 1973
Sarasota, FL
Occupation: Adjunct Professor
BSCE, Illinois Institute of Technology, 1973. I'm a Professional Engineer, a practicing structural engineer, and an ASCE fellow. I also have an MBA, and am an adjunct professor of management at Keller Graduate School of Management.
From the very start the collapse mechanism of WTC1 and WTC2 never looked quite right to me. WTC7 looks completely like a controlled demolition. It is time we let science and engineering decide.
Susanne Seemüller, Dipl.-Ing.
Architect
Dipl.-Ing.Univ, Technical University of Munich, Germany, 1997
How the three WTCs collapsed (symmetrical free fall, missing big mountains of building rubble etc.) OBVIOUSLY doesn't comply with the official statement (NIST). Open your eyes, switch on…
Susanne Seemüller, Dipl.-Ing.
Dipl.-Ing.Univ, Technical University of Munich, Germany, 1997
Markt Indersdorf, Germany
Occupation: Architect
I became a degreed architect in 1997 and worked as an employed architect for a well-respected architectural office in Munich. Since 2003, I am self-reliant with my architecture office, traded as a limited liability company. My office is essentially acting in residental constructions (design, planning, and realizing).
How the three WTCs collapsed (symmetrical free fall, missing big mountains of building rubble etc.) OBVIOUSLY doesn't comply with the official statement (NIST). Open your eyes, switch on your sanity, reason and think about the simplest fundamental principles of construction and you can't believe that the official version still can remain stable.
Mathias Rollot, PhD
Architect
Degreed
To me, the statement about 9/11 is clear enough for any person that has been studying in the field of construction : no way the building collapsed by…
Mathias Rollot, PhD
Degreed
France, France
Occupation: Architect
Degreed Architect, already constructed few designs. Also currently phd candidate in architecture, and writer.
To me, the statement about 9/11 is clear enough for any person that has been studying in the field of construction : no way the building collapsed by itself in so few hours and within this way, and impossible too that WTC7 been pulled down so quickly after the attack without any preparation first.
Inge Hanle, Cdsapi - Citizen
Educator (Retired)
BA
I recognized 9/11 as a controlled demolition as I watched the towers come down on that fateful morning. All the evidence was there to see - for those…
Inge Hanle, Cdsapi - Citizen
BA
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Occupation: Educator (Retired)
A citizen advocate for Truth. I am a retired educator, and have been a whistle-blower and truth advocate for over 40 years, determined to expose the lies wherever I detect them..
I recognized 9/11 as a controlled demolition as I watched the towers come down on that fateful morning. All the evidence was there to see - for those who had eyes and even an elementary knowledge of the laws of physics. Citizens demand the Truth. The Cover-up must end!
Maziar Salehi, Engineering Cons
B.S., Mech. Eng., UC Santa Barbara
From the time that I watched the planes hit the towers that Tuesday morning, I completely believed that those planes could not maneuver themselves that accurately without the…
Maziar Salehi, Engineering Cons
B.S., Mech. Eng., UC Santa Barbara
Redondo Beach, CA
Born in Iran, came to US in 1976 at age 10. Received BSME in 1992. mainly do structural related mechanical engineering work. Have been very vocal about the events on 9/11/01 since 9/11/01. It has been the most painful event in my life, has caused me incredible grief and set me back in life, but I believe that if the real truth about those events does not surface, there will be no healing, and the world will be destined to lose its humanity and self destruct completely.
From the time that I watched the planes hit the towers that Tuesday morning, I completely believed that those planes could not maneuver themselves that accurately without the level of expertise that only the military of united States can have. The fact that the height difference between the first and second tower impacts was considerable, the mass of the building in the first tower hit above the impact point had to be on the order of 1/3 to 1/2 that of the second tower. That mass difference should have manifested itself in different crash behavior, yet both towers collapsed in exactly the same manner! Building 7 was so obviously demolished by internal explosive that the government story was never anything by a comic farse to me. God bless those brave enough to not let the true perpetrators get away with what they have done to this planet and this humanity.
Ryan P. Sheren
Studio Art
student
Clearly we need an independent investigation into not only the collapses of WTC 1 and 2, but also WTC 7, which was never investigated by the 911 Commission.
Ryan P. Sheren
student
Wallingford, CT
Occupation: Studio Art
My name is Ryan Sheren and I'm doing my part to get the truth out about 911.
Clearly we need an independent investigation into not only the collapses of WTC 1 and 2, but also WTC 7, which was never investigated by the 911 Commission.
Mike Maguire, PE
MS, Mech/Aero Engineering, UC Davis
It is my belief that WTC 1 and 2 were taken down by non-conventional controlled demolition in which the buildings were exploded from the top down and the…
Mike Maguire, PE
MS, Mech/Aero Engineering, UC Davis
Livermore, CA
18 years experience at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory: 7 years as a maintenance engineer 5 years in building mechanical system design/construction 3 years as a facility system engineer 3 years as the lead mechanical engineer for the High Explosive Application Facility (HEAF) Professional ME registration in California BSME from University of the Pacific MS in Mech/Aero Engineering from UC Davis Currently pursuing as PhD from UC Davis
It is my belief that WTC 1 and 2 were taken down by non-conventional controlled demolition in which the buildings were exploded from the top down and the large core columns were cut using thermite. WTC 7 was taken down by a classic implosion demolition. All three buildings could not have collapsed/pancaked while falling in on themselves at near free fall speed.
Slava Rapoport, MEng
Meng Power engineering
Its obvious that more transparent investigation should be conducted with much wider public access to the testimonies, facts, findings, etc. Official version cannot be accepted and has to…
Slava Rapoport, MEng
Meng Power engineering
Gta, ON
worked in Israel and around N.America. mainly in high voltage power engineering.
Its obvious that more transparent investigation should be conducted with much wider public access to the testimonies, facts, findings, etc. Official version cannot be accepted and has to be revised to find out more details about three demolished buildings of WTC.
Amin Talha, B Arch, PMP
Architect
B Arch, University of Montreal, Canada, 1983
The NIST model of the collapse of WTC7 shows the top corner of the building collapsing before the building came down. The video of the actual collapse of…
Amin Talha, B Arch, PMP
B Arch, University of Montreal, Canada, 1983
Mississauga, ON, Canada
Occupation: Architect
Construction Field Supervisor, Construction Manager, Project Management Professional (PMP) PMP' #1589862 Managed construction of Institutional, Commercial, and Residential High-rise Buildings and Single Family Dwellings for 30 years.
The NIST model of the collapse of WTC7 shows the top corner of the building collapsing before the building came down. The video of the actual collapse of the building shows the building collapsing while intact. The NIST model does not represent the reality of the collapse. Therefore, NIST model assumptions were wrong somewhere. In addition to that, the collapse of one major column would not cause the whole building to collapse, and if it did, it will not collapse symmetrically.
Mohamed B. Mohideen, Planning Manager
BE Civil Engineering
I have my own doubts that armature pilots could have possibly done this with so much of accuracy.
Mohamed B. Mohideen, Planning Manager
BE Civil Engineering
Dammam, Eastern, Saudi Arabia
I am a Bachelor Degree holder in Civil Engineering and have years of Gulf experience. I have experience in the Construction of Process Plants, RCC Framed Structures, Pipeline Projects, and High Quality Interior Finishes.
I have my own doubts that armature pilots could have possibly done this with so much of accuracy.
Petition Signatories
Todd R. Crawford
Calgary, AB, Canada
Occupation: Real Estate Professional
Todd R. Crawford
Calgary, AB, Canada
Occupation: Real Estate Professional
I have managed high rise buildings for a decade. When you have managed portfolios as large as I have, over the years, fires happen.
9/11 happened when I was 24. I was distracted and believed everything the news told me. I have discovered that this is false. It was all false. Common sense can see that these buildings went down in a controlled manner.
Lyndon Saunders
West Bromwich, United Kingdom
Lyndon Saunders
West Bromwich, United Kingdom
I am a design engineer in the fire and security department. I am also a minister in a church.
I think that it is obvious that 911 was planned by the United States government.
Robert J. Dixon
Memphis, TN
Occupation: Faux Finisher
Education: 3 1/2 years college
Robert J. Dixon
3 1/2 years college
Memphis, TN
Occupation: Faux Finisher
After leaving college, I worked building houses, then on land oil rigs, USDA, USBC, an import company, self employed construction, self employed faux finisher.
The scientific evidence presented by this group of professionals is without a doubt clear proof that what took down the Twin Towers and Bldg. 7 was in no way related to the planes that crashed into them, yet a conspiracy and deliberate acts so that our Government (along with other players yet to be discovered) could take more of our rights away and pad their wallets with trillions of dollars on the backs of US by taking us into an unwarranted war(s) which is a Criminal act and all guilty of the planning should be in jail and every penny they own taken away from them.
Michael Knoy
San Jose, CA
Occupation: Custom Car Builder
Education: H.S. Graduate. SJRVC Welding & Shet Metal Fab. Graduate.
Michael Knoy
H.S. Graduate. SJRVC Welding & Shet Metal Fab. Graduate.
San Jose, CA
Occupation: Custom Car Builder
Custom Car Builder. I know quite a bit about metals. I worked in construction in the 1970's.
From day one I was perplexed about WTC 7. I knew the minute it went down something is very wrong with this picture. It's sad when I mention Building 7 people respond, 'what's building 7?' Why do people not know about this??
Cole Porto
Ridgewood, NJ
Cole Porto
Ridgewood, NJ
I am 23 years old and have a Bachelor's Degree in Liberal Arts from Sarah Lawrence College. I remember when the twin towers fell when I was only 9 - I could see the smoke drift northward to where I was in Bergen County, New Jersey. My Dad watched it happen that day from his studio in Manhattan and recalled the distinct sounds of explosions that went off in rapid succession as each of the towers fell. Since I got older and started researching this event for myself, I have only encountered evidence which points to the contrary of the official story.
Theories about who is responsible aside, it is utterly clear that the official story about the events on 9/11 are insufficient to explain how the twin towers and building 7 fell. Based on the evidence, I am compelled to believe that the buildings were destroyed through controlled demolitions. The American people - and in fact, the whole world - deserve to know the truth about what happened this day, and I believe this begins with clearing away the misconceptions surrounding how the towers fell and reopening a real investigation.
John J. Osier
Oshawa, ON, Canada
Education: 3 year college graduate
John J. Osier
3 year college graduate
Oshawa, ON, Canada
Graduate of a 3 year Legal Admin course from Durham College. Qualified and working as a Radiation Technician at Ontario Nuclear Station.
Truth needs to be told. New Investigation needs to be started.
Danny T. Jensen
Copenhagen, Denmark
Danny T. Jensen
Copenhagen, Denmark
I have studied the scientific material regarding 911 for several years. I have no relevant education, but consider myself fairly enlightened on the subject.
After have seen Architects and Engineers of 9-11 and other documentary's regarding 9-11 i have no doubt it was controlled demolition.
Olav Bo B. Hessellund, MA
Bolderslev, Denmark
Occupation: Public Planning (Retired)
Education: University
Olav Bo B. Hessellund, MA
University
Bolderslev, Denmark
Occupation: Public Planning (Retired)
Cand. scient. pol. (MA/pol.sc.). My work experience includes economic planning, educational policy, speech writing, public communication.
The approach and the conclusions of the US govt reports about what happened on 9/11 defy all fundamental scientific rules. The consequences have been enormous: deception to the public, destruction of nations (Iraq, Libya, Syria),surveillance and restriction of freedoms, loss of thousands of lives etc.
Mark Pendergast
Norwell, MA
Occupation: Not Provided
Education: Not provided
Mark Pendergast
Not provided
Norwell, MA
Occupation: Not Provided
Michael Seewald
Manorville, NY
Occupation: Retired
Education: High School
Michael Seewald
High School
Manorville, NY
Occupation: Retired
I am a High School graduate. I spent 41 years in the cable television industry. My first 10 years was spent in all phases of aerial and underground construction. My last 31 years was spent in the design and engineering of cable television systems. I was a liaison between my company and local , county and state agencies in applying for road work permits and attending meetings that concerned road / highway improvement projects.
After reviewing documents and video presentations I am convinced that these structures did not fail as a result of aircraft being used. In my opinion this tragedy was a result of rich and powerful people who are motivated by power and greed.
Lorayn Tiffany
Santa Cruz, CA
Occupation: Research Administrator, Commercial Property Manager
Education: Bachelor of Arts
Lorayn Tiffany
Bachelor of Arts
Santa Cruz, CA
Occupation: Research Administrator, Commercial Property Manager
Semi-retired from University of California, Santa Cruz as a research administrator in federal contracts and grants. Previously worked in commercial property management and construction.
I think it's very obvious that the WTC Twin Towers and Bldg. 7 were all brought down by controlled demolitions with explosives. I remember watching TV 15 years ago and wondering why they were bringing Bldg. 7 down, as it had not been hit by an airplane.
Duane J. Gazzigli
Redding, CA
Occupation: Automobile Sales And Finance
Education: High School, Some College
Duane J. Gazzigli
High School, Some College
Redding, CA
Occupation: Automobile Sales And Finance
I am just an average working American citizen with no real formal education, other than high school and some college. I do however consider myself an analytical open minded individual. I always try to use logical processes in determining any conclusion I come to when faced with any reasonable argument. I was an ardent sceptic of the 'so called' conspiracy 9/11 arguments, other than the 'official story' I had been given by main stream media and our government. That all changed when I decided to watch on YouTube some documentary's exposing the FACTS surrounding the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. This truly opened my eyes and changed my paradigm forever. My world has truly been turned upside down. I Therefore feel compelled to share this information with everyone who is willing listen. The truth must be exposed and those truly responsible must be brought to justice.
The 9/11 destruction of the World Trade Center buildings forever changed the world we live in. It was and is one of the most pivotal events in modern history. It is imperative for all of us to wake up to the reality of what is truly going on around us. If anyone takes the time to thoroughly examine the evidence, no reasonable person will be able to come away with anything other than the conclusion that the 'official story' is nothing short of one of the most insidious lies ever perpetrated on the American people and the world.
Amanda King
Kent, United Kingdom
Amanda King
Kent, United Kingdom
Bachelor of arts degree and a personal assistant.
This needs to be looked into as it clearly wasn't just a plane.
Roger J. Poulin
Waltham, MA
Occupation: Stone Subcontracting
Education: Wentworth Institute
Roger J. Poulin
Wentworth Institute
Waltham, MA
Occupation: Stone Subcontracting
B Arch Degree. 30 years in Stone, the Subcontracting field both in US and abroad.
With the clear evidence available, it is apparent that the official US position on 9/11 is false and an independent inquiry is not only necessary but imperative in a quest for TRUTH!
Diana K. Denton
Tulsa, OK
Occupation: Disabled
Education: Associate Degree
Diana K. Denton
Associate Degree
Tulsa, OK
Occupation: Disabled
I am simply a private citizen who wants the truth told, proper justice for the victims, and accountability of those responsible.
Utterly appalled by the lies and coverups! The American public is being treated as idiots. It's obvious these buildings were ALL imploded and did not fall due to fire or airplane impact.
Rasheeda Mohamed
Plano, TX
Rasheeda Mohamed
Plano, TX
I did my bachelor's of Engineering in Computer Science and Engineering.
I'm a muslim and I want to know the Truth! I chose US as my country of residence & I want to this country to be safe for me, my family and everybody.
William Zis
Lusby, MD
William Zis
Lusby, MD
15 year licensed commercial plumber, been involved in the construction process of many large buildings.
With any knowledge of basic construction and building design, one can see that the story being told by NIST is completely fabricated to take advantage of those who don't have such knowledge. The NIST report simply doesn't make scientific sense. This event MUST be investigated more thoroughly.
Mathew Howell
Adelaide, SA, Australia
Mathew Howell
Adelaide, SA, Australia
High School education, 22 years sales and management experience. Currently in business development role.
Building 7 demolition was planned therefore all were. With the weight of all the evidence, anomalies and lies one must arrive at insider involvement and as such a massive new investigation must be launched.
RenéE Nassar
Boston, MA
Occupation: Interior Design
Education: New England School of Art and Design
RenéE Nassar
New England School of Art and Design
Boston, MA
Occupation: Interior Design
1 year interior design
I want to know the truth about the destruction of this building.
Sean Bailey
Cranston, RI
Sean Bailey
Cranston, RI
I have 3 years of education and 3 years of nursing education and am a business owner.
We have been lied to for far too long and we need the truth.
Justin Bailey Bailey
Gardendale, AL
Justin Bailey Bailey
Gardendale, AL
CT and X-ray technologist at a local university hospital in Birmingham, Alabama. I was in college at the time of September 11, 2001. Currently 33 years old.
Just watched Blueprint for truth by Richard Gage and I want to know who is responsible for the horrors of September 11, 2001. I can't believe the government is keeping the truth from the American people. It's an outrage!
Sean E. O'donnell
Phoenix, AZ
Occupation: Musician
Education: Music Production
Sean E. O'donnell
Music Production
Phoenix, AZ
Occupation: Musician
My education spans from elementary school, high school, and up to 1 year of community college. I have always been deeply interested in science throughout my life, and consider real scientific investigations of anything that demands truth in understanding our knowledge of the past, present, and future! As an experienced musician song writer who believes in, and loves his country the United States of America, I want to heal from this tragic event of 9/11 with the truth! It is our duty as American citizens to seek the reckoning for what is happening now! I believe in God, and our constitutional republic needs to find justice for all people who live on planet Earth!
After many years of doing my own independent investigation, my only final conclusion is that the twin towers in New York city were destroyed on 9/11 2001 as a result of a very complex secret operation associated with traitors in the United States government who strategically placed nanothermite explosive charges throughout all of the fallen structures that all of the world witnessed on that day! As for building number 7, it's only obvious that if one of the buildings were wired for explosion, all of the buildings were wired for explosion. The evidence is too overwhelming!
Ellen M. Mccluskey
Midway, UT
Occupation: Nanny
Education: Some college
Ellen M. Mccluskey
Some college
Midway, UT
Occupation: Nanny
I went to Utah State University and Brigham Young University. I was majoring in political science until my junior year when I realized I was extremely bored and no longer passionate about political science (probably because we weren't getting down to the real science and issues). I am too far along to change majors without basically starting over. Taking my time to figure out a fulfilling career before returning to school. I've taken college level physical science, which has now helped me understand the demolition of the world trade centers as explained in your Toronto documentary.
The evidence is compelling and speaks for itself that clearly the Twin Towers and Building 7 fell by controlled demolition using explosives and not by a plane or by fire. Any person of a sound mind that has reviewed the information educated or not can tell for themselves the truth about 9/11 those that deny it are protecting a corrupt government or simply cannot believe the truth due to denial of such a terrible home based mass murder committed by their own people and powerful government entities. No one wants to believe our very own citizens and leaders that we elected are capable of killing nearly 3,000 people in one day without a hint of remorse. That is the only reason not to believe the facts and that is not enough.
Alexander Baldwin
Greenwich, CT
Alexander Baldwin
Greenwich, CT
I have a Bachelor's degree and have studied the events that took place on 9/11.
I watched September 11th: The New Pearl Harbor. It describes the events that took place better than I can.
Nicholas Turuk
North Battleford, SK, Canada
Education: High School student
Nicholas Turuk
High School student
North Battleford, SK, Canada
High school student not blind to the truth. 16 years old.
It is impossible for both buildings to fall at free fall speeds as they were both struck in different places and fires differed, as well as jet fuel doesn't melt steel. Tower 7 fell at free fall speed as well but it is no where near the NIST digital model.
Mike M. Rubendall
Norristown, PA
Education: High School
Mike M. Rubendall
High School
Norristown, PA
While I have only a high school education I am in no way uneducated. One of my hobbies is physics and I have been teaching myself since high school. I've also been teaching myself theoretical physics. I can easily do the calculations of force and velocity to prove there must of been an extra energy source. I was specially selected to take an exam issued by Johns Hopkins University in sixth grade for acing a standardized test.
I'm not sure what statement to put here. But, the events of 9/11 opened my eyes to realize that the world is vastly different to the isolated corruption I once believed. I am now aware that there is something much worse going on with our world.
Susan May
Bradford, United Kingdom
Occupation: Examination Officer
Education: A Level
Susan May
A Level
Bradford, United Kingdom
Occupation: Examination Officer
Member of the public with higher education certificates, with an enquiring mind.
I cannot believe that we are still trying to get a proper investigation done into the destruction of the tower(s).
Mads Alexander Krogh Simonsen
Aarhus, Denmark
Mads Alexander Krogh Simonsen
Aarhus, Denmark
A 22 year old Danish citizen with a college education, and a dream of becoming a part of the Danish special forces. I might join the war on terror one day, and want the truth to be told.
I'm positive that a new investigation is needed and that the government is hiding evidence from the public. They needed a reason to invade the Middle East and saw the 9/11 attack as the perfect opportunity.
Michael Holmes
Newent, United Kingdom
Michael Holmes
Newent, United Kingdom
Home schooled. My career spanned computer programming, systems analysis, business analysis, and project management.
The official report has been questioned. The official report is not supported by sufficient evidence to make it 100% convincing. Partly as a result of 9/11, Iraq was destroyed along with subsequent post 9/11 actions. Lives have been lost and according to UN reports, in excess of 65 million people have been displaced.
Laine W. Kowal
Stcatharines, ON, Canada
Occupation: Business Owner : Underground Infrastructure Supply Ltd.
Laine W. Kowal
Stcatharines, ON, Canada
Occupation: Business Owner : Underground Infrastructure Supply Ltd.
College Diploma, Horizontal Directional Drilling, Natural Gas distribution post meter.
No doubt in my mind this was a manned collaboration.
Conor O'brien
Woolwich, ME
Occupation: Not Provided
Conor O'brien
Woolwich, ME
Occupation: Not Provided
Commission report does NOT answer why what happened happened. The wars and destruction of constitutional rights which followed are criminal.
Tomasz Solinski
Chicago, IL
Tomasz Solinski
Chicago, IL
I've worked Construction for 10+ years and have a high school education and plan to continue my education in the near future.
The Official story is a lie and we need justice! 911 was an inside job! Planes don't vaporize and buildings don't fall at free fall speed because of fire!
Daro Bruno
Arlington, VA
Daro Bruno
Arlington, VA
I worked for American Airlines in Washington, DC during the events of 9/11 and lost friends that day. Obviously I had initially bought into the government narrative but as time passed I realized the improbability of the story. I've been letting anyone who will listen know the whole story is a fabrication ever since.
Anyone who can watch the video '9/11: Blueprint for Truth-The Architecture of Destruction' with it's irrefutable evidence and still believe the government story must be a member of the 9/11 commission, although even they don't believe it.