The AE911Truth Petition
To the Members of the House of Representatives and of the Senate of the United States of America,
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT:
On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 – specifically the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that might have been the actual cause of the destruction of the World Trade Center Twin Towers and Building 7.
Featured Petition Signers
Scott L. Baird, Accountant
Accounting
I fully support a truly independent investigation into the events of 911. Far to many events from that day were ignored or totally omitted from the 911 Commission…
Scott L. Baird, Accountant
Kansas City, MO
Occupation: Accounting
I fully support a truly independent investigation into the events of 911. Far to many events from that day were ignored or totally omitted from the 911 Commission Report.
Steve Fahrney
Student
student
WTC1,2 and 7 could not have fallen due to fire. The collapses were too symmetrical, and came down too fast, through the path of what should have been…
Steve Fahrney
student
San Diego, CA
Occupation: Student
4 Years U.S. Navy Meteorology/Oceanography Currently full time student-History Major
WTC1,2 and 7 could not have fallen due to fire. The collapses were too symmetrical, and came down too fast, through the path of what should have been the greatest resistance. The only thing that can successfully cause that is well placed explosive charges. To believe the Fire story you would have to ignore the laws of physics.
Andrew Jensson, PEng
Electrical Engineer
Electrical Engineering, P.Eng
There is irrefutably mounting evidence and speculation that indicates the media reporting on the attacks were misinformed, biased, and in some cases outright wrong. There appears to be…
Andrew Jensson, PEng
Electrical Engineering, P.Eng
Kamloops, BC, Canada
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
2005 - Engineering Technologist Diploma 2007 - Electrical Engineering Degree - First Class Standing 2007 to 2015 - Working in design, research & development, heavy industry, mining, and consulting.
There is irrefutably mounting evidence and speculation that indicates the media reporting on the attacks were misinformed, biased, and in some cases outright wrong. There appears to be more reason than not to open this case to the light of independent scrutiny and must be examined and reported accordingly.
Steven L. Scheye, PE
BS, CHem Eng, NCSU
This will be the first skyscraper have burned and collapse as a result of a hydrocarbon fueled fire. Conservation of momentum and energy: The amount energy required to…
Steven L. Scheye, PE
BS, CHem Eng, NCSU
Martinez, CA
Two Degrees & One License BS-Chemical Engineering 1985-NCSU BS-Pulp & Paper Technology-1985-NCSU, Cum Laude PE-Mechanical-M-31703, 2000 Eichleay Engineers 2004- present Chevron, Richmond Refinery, 1996 to 2004 Unocal Santa Maria (Arroyo Grande) Refiinery & Carbon Plant 1990-96 Gaylord Container & Loisianna Pacific, Antioch, CA 1986-1990 Escambia High 1981
This will be the first skyscraper have burned and collapse as a result of a hydrocarbon fueled fire. Conservation of momentum and energy: The amount energy required to cut all the columns and pulverize all the concrete in each building far exceeds the amount of energy that would have come from the building collapsing and dropping a few floors. Thus what we saw happened could not have happened on the basis of one or two floors caving in. Furthermore, if the top would have fell, it would have fallen over to one side before coming down. Chemical analysis of the dust suggests explosives. The mass balance on the chemical analysis suggests tons of explosives. The naysayers suggest some burned conduit or paint would have produced this; however the mass balance proves this to be false. Why did the Mayor of New York announce Building 7 was going to fall before it collapsed? How did he know?
Ronald L. Hoffman
Retired
B.S. Mechanical Engineering, California Polytechnic College, 1979
I was in my office when these buildings came down. A realtor next door invited me into her office to watch this on TV as it happened. I…
Ronald L. Hoffman
B.S. Mechanical Engineering, California Polytechnic College, 1979
Sparks, NV
Occupation: Retired
B.S. Mechanical Engineering. I have my own business providing plans to contractors for HVAC design.
I was in my office when these buildings came down. A realtor next door invited me into her office to watch this on TV as it happened. I remember mentioning to her that it looked liked controlled demolition. I've been studying this situation ever since.
Edwin C. Faber. Jr, BME
B.M.E. Cornell University Grad Program
It is shattering to accept the unquestionable complicity of oath taking government officials in this murderous sham and its subsequent ravaging of human life to reward those already…
Edwin C. Faber. Jr, BME
B.M.E. Cornell University Grad Program
Rhinebeck, NY
I worked for for two years for Procter and Gamble as a Process Engineer, and for seven years with Western Printing. I then worked for 4for forty years in South American Development Power Supply Components. I am retired.
It is shattering to accept the unquestionable complicity of oath taking government officials in this murderous sham and its subsequent ravaging of human life to reward those already with a surfeit of wealth and power. Perhaps a trial would at least diminish the specious rectitude of the present den of iniquitous scum lords.
Matthew J. Contino
Computer Science
BA Computer Science
The official story does not stand up to scientific scrutiny. If people are willing to review the facts, they will question the official story.
Matthew J. Contino
BA Computer Science
Long Island City, NY
Occupation: Computer Science
I am a software engineer and technical support specialist. I have spent the last 5 years investigating and collecting information regarding 9/11. I have a youtube channel dedicated to getting people to review the facts of 9/11.
The official story does not stand up to scientific scrutiny. If people are willing to review the facts, they will question the official story.
Edward E. Knesl, PE, SE
Civil, Structural
MS Engineering
We design and analyze buildings for the overturning stability to resist the lateral loads with the combination of the gravity loads. Any tall structure failure mode would be…
Edward E. Knesl, PE, SE
MS Engineering
Phoenix, AZ
Occupation: Civil, Structural
Full Master Degree study of Civil and Structural Engineering. Thirty five years of experience domestic and overseas in commercial and transportation projects : - Structural Design and Analysis - Construction Administration and Management - Plan Review - Special Inspection
We design and analyze buildings for the overturning stability to resist the lateral loads with the combination of the gravity loads. Any tall structure failure mode would be a fall over to its side. It is impossible that heavy steel columns could collapse at the fraction of the second within each story and subsequently at each floor bellow. We do not know the phenomenon of the high rise building to disintegrate internally faster than the free fall of the debris coming down from the top. The engineering science and the law of physics simply doesn't know such possibility. Only very sophisticated controlled demolition can achieve such result, eliminating the natural dampening effect of the structural framing huge mass that should normally stop the partial collapse. The pancake theory is a fallacy, telling us that more and more energy would be generated to accelerate the collapse. Where would such energy would be coming from ?
Gregory T. Winchel
Building Constuction
Wasn't in New York on that day but observed strange behavior on the part of the government and military in the days and weeks leading up to 9/11.…
Gregory T. Winchel
Cedarville, CA
Occupation: Building Constuction
Nurseryman by trade, but have also worked in the construction industry
Wasn't in New York on that day but observed strange behavior on the part of the government and military in the days and weeks leading up to 9/11. I am an ardent supporter of the truth! I do not believe the official Lie on what happened on that day.
Blago Simeonov, M.A. Music
Retired
College
The official story of the WTC destruction is a stunning insult to our collective intelligence.
Blago Simeonov, M.A. Music
College
Toronto, ON, Canada
Occupation: Retired
Graduated in Music, Bulgaria, Teaching in National Academy of Music, Royal Conservatory University of Toronto, Sofia, Concerts and radio recitals in Holland, Bulgaria, Canada, USA
The official story of the WTC destruction is a stunning insult to our collective intelligence.
Kerry Wang
Graduate Student
BS Chemical Engineering, Rice University, 2012
Numerous physical evidence casts doubt on the official review of the events of 9/11. Because of such discrepancies, the collapse of the buildings on 9/11 warrants further technical…
Kerry Wang
BS Chemical Engineering, Rice University, 2012
Minneapolis, MN
Occupation: Graduate Student
Current Materials Science PhD student at University of Minnesota (Twin Cities). BS in Chemical Engineering from Rice University.
Numerous physical evidence casts doubt on the official review of the events of 9/11. Because of such discrepancies, the collapse of the buildings on 9/11 warrants further technical review.
Sami Basuhail, Architect
BS Arch, MSIS
Unlikely at best that the destruction was random.
Sami Basuhail, Architect
BS Arch, MSIS
Fairfax, VA
18 years as a practicing architect.
Unlikely at best that the destruction was random.
Petition Signatories
Dalee Perkins
Austin, TX
Occupation: Technology
Dalee Perkins
Austin, TX
Occupation: Technology
I am not an architect but I am an art historian and american citizen that is floored that we did not understand this when it happened. it is so apparent that two planes could not have taken down the twin towers and bldg 7. I was shocked when 7 came down and had no idea how it could happen. Now I just want to know who was involved.
All of the videos appear that this was a demolition and should be investigated. This is too important to ignore.
Raymond Wells
North Wilkesboro, NC
Occupation: Inside Sales
Raymond Wells
North Wilkesboro, NC
Occupation: Inside Sales
I'm just a 59 year old concerned citizen who wants the truth to come out about what occurred on 9/11/01. I'm married, have 2 daughters and 3 grandchildren. I've been in sales and customer service for most of my life, I'm an outdoorsman, loved playing sports and as I've gotten older taken up kayak fishing. I'm still a follower of most professional and college sports teams. I lived in New Jersey for a good part of my life and remember seeing The Towers from the Jersey side on many occasions. Its so hard seeing what happened on that day
The evidence that I have seen indicates that a new investigation needs to be opened on the events that occurred on 9/11/01. The collapse of the buildings indicate a controlled demolition. There are no videos or evidence of any steel structures ever falling like those buildings did, particularly Building 7. No plane hit that building at all and the prior investigation said that office furniture burning was responsible for the collapse. I have burned many fires in my wood stove made of cast iron or on a grate, and never had any of it melt or collapse due to a hot fire being inside. All the supporting steel structures of the building would have to fail at the same time as well and the fires that were in building 7 were in isolated pockets. The real evidence shows that the building came down due to a controlled demolition.
Juan S. Valderrama
Hollywood, FL
Occupation: Finance
Education: student
Juan S. Valderrama
student
Hollywood, FL
Occupation: Finance
I was born in Colombia, came to the U.S. about 6 years ago because I saw this country as the best country in the world. However, in recent years I have learned a lot about our government and the CFR and I'm deeply horrified about the manipulation and the extremes people are willing to go to achieve something, including killing millions.
It is clear 9/11 was used to undermine our rights and start wars in the Middle East for the special interests.
Edison Casado
Merrick, NY
Occupation: Software Analyst
Education: Degreed
Edison Casado
Degreed
Merrick, NY
Occupation: Software Analyst
I've worked in the field of Information Systems for 22 years. I've a Degree in Computer Science and currently work for a small software company in NYC.
This event has caused a humanitarian crisis in Iraq, Afghanistan and the death of thousands of young American men and women. It is our indisputable right to question the Official story that is currently supported by the Government, a story that according to many experts does not resemble truth. These questions must be answered and the truth must be disclosed, only in knowing the truth will we as a nation start a true healing.
Joey Lynn
Waldport, OR
Occupation: Retired
Joey Lynn
Waldport, OR
Occupation: Retired
I live in Oregon. I am retired, have done many things, the last being a graphic designer. Love to design jewelry, clothes, house, interiors, etc. I love ALL animals especially cats. I love looking at the ocean.
I believe that government lied. I believe that US government was involved. I believe the buildings were fitted with explosives that brought them down. Have been on this and collected info since the beginning, so I am glad that people who really know how this works like you are gathering evidence.
Jason Goble
Castaic, CA
Occupation: Elevator Mechanic
Jason Goble
Castaic, CA
Occupation: Elevator Mechanic
Concerned citizen looking to get some answers... I'm an elevator mechanic knowledgeable in high rise construction and I'm certain the planes didn't bring down the Towers. Period!
I'm an elevator mechanic. I'm very knowledgeable on high rise construction and I still want an explanation to why there are traces of thermite! The towers could have taken multiple planes and not come down. PERIOD!!!
John R. Oldham
Saint Louis, MO
Occupation: Communications
John R. Oldham
Saint Louis, MO
Occupation: Communications
I am from New Jersey but I have lived in St. Louis since 1980. My brother works in Manhattan and was scheduled for a 10 am appointment in the North Tower on 9/11. Fortunately, his appointment was re-scheduled for a later date. I owned a flower shop here in St. Louis at the time.
I have watched many videos on YouTube questioning the veracity of the government's 9/11 report. I read the Popular Mechanics and watched the PBS explanation of the pancake effect that caused the collapse of the buildings. I resent their thinking that the American public is so gullible! I have listen to many programs like Coast to Coast AM questioning the explanations given by the government. Recently, I have listened to the YouTube video by Susan Lindauer, former CIA operative explaining the events leading up to 9/11. I believe that President Bush and his administration were responsible for the events of 9/11 and that their explanation is a cover up at the highest levels of our government and that hundreds of elected officials have been paid off for their silence on these issues!
Harold M. Harrison, MBA
Mesquite, TX
Occupation: Executive Search
Education: MBA University of Dallas
Harold M. Harrison, MBA
MBA University of Dallas
Mesquite, TX
Occupation: Executive Search
Independent business owner for 30 years. Information Technology Search Consultant. No party affiliation - independent voter. Favor the Campaign for Liberty and their direction to return to constitutional government and personal liberty. I am a truth seeker.
Have always felt that our government and President Bush were involved with the destruction of the Twin Towers. His initial response on TV in the classroom was very suspicious. All of the issues that had to be in place to allow the attacks to occur is almost beyond comprehension - from intelligence to security. A major failure of government to function or some degree of planning on the part of government. Including Desert Storm.
Robert D. Highfield, Rev
Cherokee, AL
Occupation: Organic Farmer/Musician
Education: Degreed
Robert D. Highfield, Rev
Degreed
Cherokee, AL
Occupation: Organic Farmer/Musician
Self-educated, organic farmer and universal life church minister. I hold two associates degrees and was a national merit scholar in 1968. I am currently disabled and spend much of my time continuing my education.
I have seen demolitions, and this certainly looked like one, the way the buildings fell in their own footprints, blowing out beams sideways as they fell. I had a premonition before it happened when I passed a billboard advertising a new pearl harbor movie. It struck me that we were being prepped for something like this, and I said so to the person riding with me, that we would soon see a false attack followed by war. The official explanation seemed unbelievable.
June Yun
Gresham, OR
June Yun
Gresham, OR
Friends in the towers, worked in NY for 12 years, spent a lot of time in the buildings.
I don't believe it wasn't a controlled demolition. The government needs to re-open the investigation.
Celia Batte
Gresham, OR
Celia Batte
Gresham, OR
Joe Ilie
Gresham, OR
Joe Ilie
Gresham, OR
Duane Kaiser
Portland, OR
Duane Kaiser
Portland, OR
Abdeyah Fredericks
Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa
Occupation: Administrator
Abdeyah Fredericks
Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa
Occupation: Administrator
No Technical Education. Studied one year National Diploma Building. Been in the construction industry ever since then.
The facts are there. NIST has not responded to the ACTUAL evidence provided by the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth.
Richard & Patricia Ross
Seal Beach, CA
Occupation: Af Contracting
Education: Masters Degree Contracting
Richard & Patricia Ross
Masters Degree Contracting
Seal Beach, CA
Occupation: Af Contracting
Hassan I. Elbard
Huntington Beach, CA
Occupation: Small Business Owner
Education: BA
Hassan I. Elbard
BA
Huntington Beach, CA
Occupation: Small Business Owner
I am a 29 year old resident of Huntington Beach, California. I run a family business and love to hike, play soccer, excercise, snowboard and hang out with friends on my free time... Also, I am a seeker of truth and never succombed to believing what the mass media tells me when it defies logic.
Since it was the government that I believe lied to us on that day, I urge our new government to uncover the truth and debunk the lies..
Cameron M. Wright
Burleigh Heads, QLD, Australia
Occupation: Finance
Education: Degreed
Cameron M. Wright
Degreed
Burleigh Heads, QLD, Australia
Occupation: Finance
Finance Broker for 10 years with a Bachelor of Business education. I have been a company director for the last 7 years.
I doubt the official story and seek a full and transparent investigation into the events of 9/11.
Graeme M. Glendinning
Johnstone, Renfrewshire
Occupation: Non Conformist
Graeme M. Glendinning
Johnstone, Renfrewshire
Occupation: Non Conformist
I have no technical experience ,nor is any needed to know this incident shows a blatant disregard for the general public by the ones who really control everything and who are obviously supported by the puppets who are the legitimate government
Shockingly obvious creation of the low lifes who control our so called free world and shows how pathetic they regard us to even carry out this incident, obviously having not a care for the overall population and regarding us no more than sheeple
Jelina Vance, CHt, MH
North Plains, OR
Jelina Vance, CHt, MH
North Plains, OR
I never believed the official story. Total B.S. Lets get to the truth.
Glenda Dougherty
Hillsboro, OR
Glenda Dougherty
Hillsboro, OR
Thought provoking. I believe that a society can only exist peacefully if the people have the truth.
Beverly Wolfe
Hillsboro, OR
Beverly Wolfe
Hillsboro, OR
Very surprised hearing of the 3rd building collapse. Opened my eyes to the ignoring of the scientific evidence by the government.
Nels H. Nelson
Hillsboro, OR
Education: B.S. 1968 Elem. Teaching, WWU
Nels H. Nelson
B.S. 1968 Elem. Teaching, WWU
Hillsboro, OR
Retired Professional Safety Engineer (ASSE). Thirty years occupational safety and health experience working for the State of Oregon.
The evidence of explosives causing or contributing to the WTC Tower collapses (especially Bldg. 7) is overwhelming. A new independent investigation is needed.
Greg Horrall
Yogyakarta, Diy, Indonesia
Education: Degreed
Greg Horrall
Degreed
Yogyakarta, Diy, Indonesia
B.S. Purdue University, Mathematics, Physics, Aerospace Engineering; Graduate Study also at Purdue in Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing; 20 years professional experience in the field of aerial imaging and topographical mapping
It has always been incredible to me that, in spite of obviously being asymmetrically stressed by side ward impacts and explosions, both of the towers as well as Number 7 that wasn't even struck fell so symmetrically in a vertical trajectory and that the heat of the jet fuel fires burning with only natural convective airflow could have melted the steel structures. Also, very suspicious was the hastiness of the site cleanup and clearly apparent lack of real concern to perform a thorough detailed investigation before discarding the wreckage and debris.
Michael A. Brutto, It Support Techn
Portland, CT
Occupation: Info Technology
Education: IT Security Management
Michael A. Brutto, It Support Techn
IT Security Management
Portland, CT
Occupation: Info Technology
I am not an engineer or an architect. I however, want the truth and a full independent investigation and full disclosure by independent people like you folks.
Obviously I do not have expertise. But like one person said in the film, you do not have to be an engineer to figure out the investigation by NIST does not add up.
Nancy R. Savage
Highlands Ranch, CO
Occupation: Author/Publisher
Education: Degreed
Nancy R. Savage
Degreed
Highlands Ranch, CO
Occupation: Author/Publisher
Vice-President of Talking Book Publishers, Inc./ Analytical Reading Teacher/ publisher and author of Nickel the Buffalo who Thought He Was A Dog
I'm interested in a full investigation into the possible use of explosives to bring down three buildings on 911.
Pamela D. Dalby
Troy, MT
Occupation: Retired
Education: BS sociology, PLU University
Pamela D. Dalby
BS sociology, PLU University
Troy, MT
Occupation: Retired
I'm 66 years old and considered to be one of the crazies by my peers for my current beliefs on many things. I believe the truth is coming out about many wrongs that we have been fed for years. I have an extremely positive attitude about the awakening of the globe for us all and 9/11 is a huge event that has to be righted and brought to light. I'm sorry that my generation seems to be so asleep. It's great that you have included the psychologists view on the reasons for our generation's inability to see the truth. I saw the PBS show and hope more PBS stations pick it up. Montana is truly asleep. I will be buying the DVD's to show and hope to awaken some people in my state.
I've known 9/11 was a lie within a year after the fact. That was a fact that was not looked upon by anyone at the time as true. I've been ahead of the game for quite awhile and admittedly not said much as I've never been particularly understood. It's just been in the last year for me that so many things of truth are surfacing. Our truths are finally coming to the forefront.. God Bless those that are asleep, the alarm clock is ringing louder all the time.
David Jones
Forres, Morayshire, United Kingdom
Occupation: People Skills Consultant
Education: MA Whole system design Antioch Univ.
David Jones
MA Whole system design Antioch Univ.
Forres, Morayshire, United Kingdom
Occupation: People Skills Consultant
Consulting work with individual and companies. Mainly communication skills and management. Retired.
I am not entirely sure what happened but it did not look right to me and the more I read into it the more suspect I became. BUT, all one has to do is look at the havoc that has been generated since. Just the very thought of catching 'terrorists' by the methods currently used is ludicrous. I have a friend who was in Viet Nam and was a police officer and he is going through hard times and had to take a psychology profile test for a dish washing job. Yes, 9/11 has certainly changed things and not for the better, and have we caught or created more terrorists.
Catherine Weinberg
Philadelphia, PA
Occupation: Learning and Teaching
Education: student
Catherine Weinberg
student
Philadelphia, PA
Occupation: Learning and Teaching
I am a student of life. After 25 years as a Montessori teacher my time is dedicated to spreading the truth taught by my Sufi Master MR Bawa Muhaiyaddeen(Ral.) This has led me to be involved in Interfaith dialogue, prayer and inviting others to the living teachings of Bawa.
It appears that there needs to be an investigation into the destruction of the towers, all of them. When I viewed the scientific evidence presented by the movie 911, Experts speak out I realize that I did not consider the scientific viewpoint. We must insist on further investigation.
Karen Wilson, Construction Pro
Red Feather Lakes, CO
Occupation: Commercial Construction
Karen Wilson, Construction Pro
Red Feather Lakes, CO
Occupation: Commercial Construction
Commercial construction project admin for 15 years. FAA licensed airframe and power plant mechanic (not current).
Have never believed the media version of what took place on 9/11. It looked like a controlled demolition, even to an untrained eye.
Mark Dailey
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Education: degreed & licensed
Mark Dailey
degreed & licensed
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Over 15 years domestic/international experience in land surveying for legal/construction & GIS applications.
I have had doubts regarding the official story of 9/11 since learning some years ago that WTC 7 collapsed due to office fires and not being struck by aircraft or major debris from the collapse of the other towers. This doubt was strengthened when the owner of WTC 7 suggested that FDNY pull the buildings.
Jennifer Rose R. Gaunt, Student
Longwood, FL
Occupation: Surgical Technology
Education: Surgical Technology
Jennifer Rose R. Gaunt, Student
Surgical Technology
Longwood, FL
Occupation: Surgical Technology
A good friend of mine asked me to watch a documentary in '2008' on 9/11, known as Loose Change. After watching the documentary I became very curious and wanted to learn more about what really happened on 9/11. Shortly there after I started to methodically research the events of 9/11 and the destruction of WTC skyscrapers. It was only a matter of time before the evidence became overwhelming.
Tom Benda
Kihei, HI
Occupation: Concrned Citizen
Tom Benda
Kihei, HI
Occupation: Concrned Citizen
just a citizen wanting to get the truth out about 9/11 so that everyone will put pressure on those who know to come forward.
Torey J. Severino
Laguna Niguel, CA
Occupation: Entrepreneur, Real Estate Agent
Education: B.A. History, University at Albany. NY
Torey J. Severino
B.A. History, University at Albany. NY
Laguna Niguel, CA
Occupation: Entrepreneur, Real Estate Agent
* Graduate of University at Albany, NY 1998 with B.A. in History and A.A. in Business * Licensed California real estate agent since 2001 * Employed by Realty Executives since 2002, Windermere Real Estate 2010-Present * Sold over 500 homes since 2001 * Top Sales Agent, 2004-Present * Multi-Million dollar producer exceeding $100,000,000 in sales volume since 2001 * Member of Mike Ferry One on One Coaching Program since 2001 * Member of Top 1% of California Desert Association of Realtors * Member of 100% club with Realty Executives International, 2002-Present
Born and raised NY resident, traveled for family and pleasure many times to NYC. Visited the WTC and Windows on the World restaurant many times as a child and young adult and was always amazed at their size, presence and beauty. The attacks seems too sophisticated for a radical group to execute without help or support of a more strategic plan. I do have my doubts and reservations about how the buildings fell so perfectly and how they are the only three steel buildings of their size to collapse in history due to fire. Puzzled by how there were very few plane parts at any of crash sites compared to other crash sites for planes that have crashed pre/post 9/11.